Addition to the Remnant post

So, in the end, men may have to "leave" a sect or denomination in order to truly come to Christ, and this does not mean you are betraying your brethren or denying your faith, but seeking to realize, edify, add to, validate, verify what you know about God and build upon the Faith the He grants freely and embolden and strengthen your relationship with Him, using as a compass and guide, this maxim:

Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

If they are worthy of the "Nod of God," then I believe it Wisdom to show your respect and true Faith in Him and His Chosen by being in Agreement and humbly seeking to learn who He is by learning to worship with the best.

Indeed the Remnant will be small, so that those churches who now boast of conversion numbers and such will have nothing more to boast of than souls condemned by works.

Isa 1:9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, [and] we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

Isa 16:14 But now the LORD hath spoken, saying, Within three years, as the years of an hireling, and the glory of Moab shall be contemned, with all that great multitude; and the remnant [shall be] very small [and] feeble.

Jer 44:28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of the land of Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall know whose words shall stand, mine, or theirs.

 

 

 

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COME AS YOU ARE

"Come as you are, as you were,
As I want you to be
As a friend, as a friend, as an old enemy
Take your time, hurry up
The choice is yours, don't be late
Take a rest as a friend as an old memoria

Come dowsed in mud, soaked in bleach
As I want you to be
As a trend, as a friend, as an old memoria

And I swear that I don't have a gun
No I don't have a gun..."

~Nirvana Lyrics

"Behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague." --Leviticus 13:13

Strange enough this regulation appears, yet there was wisdom in it, for the throwing out of the disease proved that the constitution was sound. This morning it may be well for us to see the typical teaching of so singular a rule. We, too, are lepers, and may read the law of leper as applicable to ourselves. When a man sees himself to be altogether lost and ruined, covered all over with the defilement of sin, and no part free from pollution; when he disclaims all righteousness of his own, and pleads guilty before the Lord, then is he clean through the blood of Jesus, and the grace of God. Hidden, unfelt, unconfessed iniquity is the true leprosy, but when sin is seen and felt it has received its death blow, and the Lord looks with eyes of mercy upon the soul afflicted with it. Nothing is more deadly than self-righteousness, or more hopeful than contrition. We must confess that we are "nothing else but sin," for no confession short of this will be the whole truth, and if the Holy Spirit be at work with us, convincing us of sin, there will be no difficulty about making such an acknowledgment--it will spring spontaneously from our lips. What comfort does the text afford to those under a deep sense of sin! Sin mourned and confessed, however black and foul, shall never shut a man out from the Lord Jesus. Whosoever cometh unto Him, He will in no wise cast out. Though dishonest as the thief, though unchaste as the woman who was a sinner, though fierce as Saul of Tarsus, though cruel as Manasseh, though rebellious as the prodigal, the great heart of love will look upon the man who feels himself to have no soundness in him, and will pronounce him clean, when he trusts in Jesus crucified. Come to Him, then, poor heavy-laden sinner,

Come needy, come guilty, come loathsome and bare; You can't come too filthy--come just as you are.

 

CH Spurgeon

 

Remnant continued...(Method to the Madness)

1Nephi 13:12 And I looked and beheld a man among the Gentiles, who was separated from the seed of my brethren by the many waters; and I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and wrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land.

It is God's Promise that means ALL. Nothing else matters. The devil has been trying in vain to make a liar out of God since the very beginning and he will never rest or stop until he is destroyed. He very nearly succeeds through Joseph but Judah will save Joseph and bring Joseph's Testimony to fulfillment in more ways than one...Joseph was just jealous and this will of course be forgiven, granted Ephraim repent.

After all their work for Christ, to at last be rejected, would be calamity...

Deu 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with [that which is] not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities:

and I will move them to jealousy with [those which are] not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

The LORD's Word is absolute and eternal.

Isa 11:13

The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.

Joseph was also fed up with God as were many during his time...and because I believe today's generation to be the "Joseph Smith Generation" our culture personifies this yawning impatience with the Almighty.

God chose Jacob/Israel and the Jews, and His Promise and Covenant is Forever.

And why must Judah save Joseph even if Joseph were perfect? Simple. God saves Judah. It's none of Judah or Joseph or any other servant, nation, god, or entity's doing. It's God.

The Jews are a humble, noble, incredibly wise people, and their wisdom comes from self abasement, as does their will to perservere in the worst of circumstances...Which brings the Pride of those who find themselves and their works to be worthy of exaltation against them.

So, it's not because people worship on Sunday that they are rejected, it's notbecause they eat apples and honey on Rosh Hashanah that they are accepted...God is not going to accept a Jew who would not deny the traditions of his fellow Jews any more than He would accept a Mormon who would not leave off Sunday Worship and "Family Home Evening" to honor Him on the actual Seventh Day Sabbath, nor would He accept the SDA Church who sell the Sabbath Worship in order to build up their Church and Religion and false prophet...

Yet, each religion has been blessed with worthy revelation from the Holy Spirit and study of the Scriptures. The Key to unlocking each Sect's real potential is in Unity in Christ, which is possible through Christ alone using Paul's understanding, which exceeds all others, simply because he relies on Christ. Willing to walk blindly in Faith.

And Joseph actually does walk the walk but lacks the humility and love of Paul perhaps because he thought himself worthy of the Glory of God or God's Son. Joseph/Ephraim does not like to go without, endure hard times...and becomes petty and bitter, seeking payback on their own, which leads to a Priesthood and Church which shuts up Heaven against men.

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

This is the worst kind of apostasy and most difficult to mark, for the Priesthood can still claim and speak according to Law and testimony yet their is no light in them, and they become the worst kind of evil.

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and of all uncleanness.

But what we shall find is that even if Jesus Christ had led an entirely sinful life and died a wretched death of a sinful man, God would still raise him from the Dead, from the very Pit of Hell and proclaim him Messiah, because Jesus would never be a sinful man, like Job, he would cling to innocence and never join the Enemy of God.

Such is God's Will in Christ Jesus, and nothing will ever change that and to work against it, is to side with Satan and be destroyed ultimately.

D&C 93 almost captures this Truth:

12-14 And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace;

And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;

And thus he was called the Son of God, because he received not of the fulness at the first.

False because:

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Always did, always will...The Truth that this Scripture might relate is that Jesus or God in Jesus revealed Himself once in a Way that no one could deny ever again, with the Crucifixion, Death, Risen Christ, Resurrection and Acension which had and has happened more than once, in different ways. But otherwise, in different incarnations and forms the Spirit can and does go from Grace to Grace, until such a time as God Glorifies. I would say afterward and before Christ seemed to go from grace to grace and realized this during His Ministry.

Luke 24:25-27 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Jhn 12:16 These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and [that] they had done these things unto him.

Hence, I conclude that the LDS Church wishes to continue to do these things unto Christ rather than really come to Him. They may feel themselves worthy and Christ unworthy, or be willing to try and make Him so, such is "possible" since Christ is willing to be the Lamb for the Slaughter.

2Cr 5:18-21 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespassesunto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

See what I mean? Joseph does what Paul asks, but then tries to take the Glory because it's available, Christ doesn't want it for His own sake, so why not take It? Therein lies the answer. Joseph had a better chance than Paul, he started off on the right path, and he didn't have Paul's weakness. Joseph's weakness led him to defile his bride, which ultimately strengthens "that Wicked" (Thess. 2:8) built up upon the pride of men and the Church. Paul's weakness worked exactly the opposite because we could mark it, learn from it, avoid it and work the work of reconciliation instead of condemnation and the "putting forth of the finger." Paul recognized his weakness and did his best to utilize it to win souls to Christ.

Joseph did not recognize his weakness and that is what leads to a Church in denial.  God uses Joseph's weakness to reveal the Truth about Joseph, if you can see it and help realize it, we can "save" the Work Joseph brought to Light. Otherwise Joseph's weakness leads men away from Christ.

Solomon/Jesus' weakness led him in one instance to hate his Bride and in another to forgive Her and lay down His life for Her. This was Paul's life story.

1Cr 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Back to our story...

Why shouldn't the Beast desire a day for itself? It provides for its own and works hard eight days a week.

That is precisely the point: It never stops, and is always hungry...the Grave, it's the Pact with Death...It can't stop to rest for even a day and absolutely will not rest for His Day. Elders and Priests work harder on Sundays than on any other day of the week and they have the temerity to call this a Day of Rest? Acceptable unto the LORD? It defies the Commandment of Sabbath! Made for man..."thou shalt do no work [therein]."

It's not the same Spirit.

Sabbath is about Faith and Relationship and Him knowing you whether you wish to be known or not...

Sabbath REST.

Again, He chose Paul, Chief of Sinners, a lecherous, vile man, because He knew somehow Paul would tell the Truth, he knew Paul's spirit and He weighed it and accepted him. He knew others would know Paul spoke the Truth as well. It's a Spiritual matter.

It was Wisdom in God.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Not steal and ye shall be believed.

Jer 23:30 Therefore, behold, I [am] against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.

The Truth will be revealed in the outcome. Pay attention Joseph. It's not about the Servant.

2Ch 1:10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, [that is so] great?

Psa 51:6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden [part] thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

Ecc 2:9 So I was great, and increased more than all that were before me in Jerusalem: also my wisdom remained with me.

Note Solomon says, "I was great..." but the message he was imparting was, I'm ultimately nothing and unimportant, what I have discovered is that I gotta make me happy by being what God made me to be. Because he didn't do a thing, he sat around and watched his people build a Kingdom around him, and yeah, he said now, I'm great or we're great but who cares? Something is missing, we're not realizing something, or I'm not. His conclusion, man should find something worthwhile to do, something he is happy doing, and that contributes to his fellows happiness. I aint found it in bitches and hoes and drink and riches and religion, something doesn't jibe with my Kingdom, something's up...what is it?

Ecc 6:11 Seeing there be many things that increase vanity, what [is] man the better?

Ecc 12:12-13 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books [there is] no end; and much study [is] a weariness of the flesh.

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.

So, the secret is as easy as it is hard. You just have to be who you are, and that's it. But throw in sin and it's so damned hard! You can't sit still.

One becomes, "bored to Death." That's how easy it is to lose all you have, just become convinced that what you have is boring and you'll go looking for something you are not. And it's fun. It's a unique thrill to die. It's hard to live, it takes skill and mastery. Easier to master survival, which is why so many boys remain boys, they just get really big.

Labor all you want, fight all you want, in all you can, in the end, none of it is going to make you happy. What brings Joy, Real Joy, is faithfulness, having friends and family, a community that works, plays, endures together all things our enemies can throw our way. And we can only attain such a society by obeying the commandments and loving one another...

For me, Mormon understanding of the Scriptures makes dumb the Word of God, and in some cases makes It lie...I have yet to verify whether this is the intent of the Latter-day Saints and why, or whether it is honest error...but it frightens me away from the Church.

Then again, it may just be fulfillment of their Word.

Ether 12: 24-28 And thou hast made us that we could write but little, because of the awkwardness of our hands. Behold, thou hast not made us mighty in writing like unto the brother of Jared, for thou madest him that the things which he wrote were mighty even as thou art, unto the overpowering of man to read them.

Thou hast also made our words powerful and great, even that we cannot write them; wherefore, when we write we behold our weakness, and stumble because of the placing of our words; and I fear lest the Gentiles shall mock at our words.

And when I had said this, the Lord spake unto me, saying: Fools mock, but they shall mourn; and my grace is sufficient for the meek, that they shall take no advantage of your weakness;

And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

Behold, I will show unto the Gentiles their weakness, and I will show unto them that faith, hope and charity bringeth unto me the fountain of all righteousness.

Which brings me to my next point, or rather God's Point, which is validated in both Works/Books/Sticks. First above, that God gives men weakness that they may be humble. And Paul's very life was an example of a weak man made strong in the LORD, wrestling with the "old man," in Roman's chapter seven.

So, since you can't trust a single word most others say, nor even judge by actions these days, it is best to assume that anything anyone claims to be, you can be sure that they are not. Unless, they claim to be no more than a sinner in need of God's Mercy and Grace, they are lying and bound for hell unless they repent.

Pride is the greatest reaper of souls among sins.

Learn and know the difference between proper and improper disdain. I tell you forsooth, there has been no Kingdom on earth built up that has not been built upon upon this fundamental foundational maxim within the Christ. It is the way we learn to act in surety and Faith with right intent, because we are intent upon nothing more than being Right. And it is acheived because, what, what? Because we love one another and forgive sins and admit our faults and stop leading one another into sin and do our best to warn others in earnest, and sacrifice ourselves for the good of the whole. America has become exactly the opposite, men only sacrifice themselves for pride and glory, of which they will see niether...You must be prepared to forgive the worst sinner and to warn the most naive of children of sin, even if you look bad in the transaction. That is when a boy becomes a man and a girl becomes a woman, and the Pride of the world is overcome.

Churches and Societies are built upon the Faith and Strength of their adherents, citizens and contributors. If a body of believers believes in God wholeheartedly but errs in which day they worship on, it doesn't matter. God will love them as much and more than they love Him simply because they REALLY do love Him.

God may hate the Church Leaders, Priesthood and Apostles who are intent on using the belief of others to suit their own agendas, but He will love the true believers, despite their being duped and led astray.

Isa 65:5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These [are] a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

This is why the Mormon Church is one of the most successful churches on earth: They teach well when they stick to the fundamentals, and keep it fairly simple. You can sometimes trust the teachings but not always the teachers. But it is up to YOU to know the difference. God will hold YOU accountable for falling for the false doctrine of devils.

Mat 23:2-3 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Once a man is seated in a place of honor, he is always remiss to leave his throne, no matter if God's Son tells him he has no right to it. Especially a divided man.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And what? You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Too often Teachers don't know what they are teaching.

Jhn 3:10-12 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

People can use Righteousness to wield power over others. Christ died for sinners not the righteous. His actions more often than not condemned the righteous but he admitted openly that righteousness delivers from condemnation, and any who take hold of Him, from Death.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Leave it to God, trust His Choice.

Mat 19:25-26 When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible

Feigned propriety is not the Holy Spirit. Neurosis inducing strict order does not bring about His Peace nor Kingdom, which is not of this earth, and will never bring about the Liberty Heavenly Citizens have the Divine Right to enjoy on earth.

Jesus taught everything by doing it, every little nuance of His Character spoke the Gospel. When he laid back at ease on the Passover before he was to be crucified, He was teaching something about true Worship. It's to be extremely comfortable, laid back and graceful.

So, the Remnant or Divine Right Party will be comprised of members from every Nation and walk of life. People who truly love one another and God, and not upon any particular religious affiliation or doctrine built upon man's understanding of the Word of God or Gospel of Christ.

These will worship in Spirit and in Truth.

And they will follow Jesus, no other.

Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

If you are a debtor, you will be judged according to Paul's gospel, by Moses.

If you have Christ, those who belong to Him will be attracted to you.

Sin eventually forbids everyone from coming to Christ and that is when Christ finishes The Work.

Ironically, this is how the Whore ensnares, because we are willing to come to her if only to find what we need in Him transformed into something comfortable and cheap, thus the Great Delusion/Apostasy is reinforced, strengthened and emboldened.

Which is why she's so busy making her self up to look like a faithful wife again...Christian Coalition, Traditional Values stuff, all kinds of human institutions that will welcome you for your money and contributions, and grant you "freedom." But this isn't Christian Liberty, it's Slavery cloaked in good deeds and intentions.

1Pe 2:16 As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

Acquiesce is not love, though it hath a pleasing form and convincing manner.

Rebellion would be more honorable...

And people know it, that is why so many become filthy sinners even though they are of righteous mindset. The best of us have fallen and we don't know how to proceed. Most know nothing more than a Hunger which must be at odds with the Creator to survive. And this will is willing to serve a false Church/State Union which God will enable because it will have no choice and mostly be willing to protect the flock or Body for the rewards it needs. For this will produce a land of wise princes if they know the Whore and find the strength in Unity to overcome what she is selling. Incredibly hard to do! Pray daily for them.

Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Ecc 10:17 Blessed [art] thou, O land, when thy king [is] the son of nobles, and thy princes eat in due season, for strength, and not for drunkenness!

I chose the LDS Church to be bapstised in because I felt real love for and of its missionaries. I know they have Christ. I chose them that all righteousness might be fulfilled and that they might indeed possess the Authority of Christ. I joked upon the day of my baptism that I was being baptised to slow the church down, and I received some uncomfortable laughs. Indeed, I was baptised to bring the Church to a halt in order that they might find the will to truly know Him and be with Him, whom they have striven selflessly for most of their lives to serve. And not just the patience, time and space to make a successful bid in the latter-days to claim Christ and make a profit.

I realize it seems unfair to ask of people who have served and endured patiently for many years, to continue to do so when their chance for phenomenal worldly success and notriety is at hand, but that is exactly what they must do. And to concentrate in earnest on the reconciliation of the tribes, by seeking to know God with the assistance of their truly Jewish brethren. Learning anew and conforming where neccessary to the True God and His Way, through Jesus Christ not Joseph Smith. This is the opportunity all have been waiting for, to allow each "tribe" to participate and contribute what they have garnered apart from the Whole. That we all might help each other overcome our Pride.

I chose them to save those whom I felt a love for within the Church from the Church.

Not to condemn the Church but to aright its will that it might come to know the Liberty the Spirit knows and grants freely.

I would that the Church might take notice of the Puritan lives that molded this nation's moral values and ethics. The Puritans have very little in way of worldly accomplishments to boast of, indeed they lived as beggars on a reservation granted them by their enemies whom they were quick to befriend and make peace with. And yet their heritage is the richest this nation has or will ever inherit.

The Plymouth Plantation still bears His Glory, as does all of Creation without a man lifting a finger to build a single edifice to Him.

Remnant

Yesterday, I learned something I didn't know; the word "atheist" was originally used by pagans to describe Christians who denied the existence of the deities the pagans so revered.

Which makes sense since Christians, real Christians, would never be concerned with enforcing worship, though many Churches built up on the foundation of Christ did become so, hiding the true intent of their church and the idols they served in secret.

Truth: Satan works harder for Christ than any other being in the earth.

Fact: The Way is EASY!

Lots of people replace love with work. Love is harder, takes more patience, hurts more when failed...yet endures all things.

Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

If you can dupe the Christ or the Christ in a member or elect servant, you can twist and wrest the Gospel to serve whatever end you please...as far as others are willing to give over their Divine Right to your agenda.

How are we to know???

Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

 

 

The Roman Catholic and Mormon Church for example, both honor the Beast with worship and communion on Sunday when they call it Sabbath, mostly in error, they simple don't know any better. But those who do know better Worship the Evil One, and as debtors to Christ no matter how you slice it, hold at least a grudge and at worst a passionate hatred for and hold in derision all things Holy.

Because a fallen brotherhood is all important to survival in the earth, and no matter how much you would like to honor Christ, you cannot when you have to be a part of that brotherhood.

It's a compromised allegiance to God and Christ, which is unacceptable and unworthy of Glory.

This understanding or lack thereof births Societies/Kingdoms/Mobrules like that of America, which, as openly wicked as She may become is yet under Christ's Authority and the most base of men understand this fact and rely on it more than they would care to acknowledge openly. The best of them, try to acknowledge It erringly and are therefore heartily and boldly forgiven.

To really follow Christ one would have to leave the church and take up his cross daily, not just once a week.

Which is exactly how the real Remnant shall be formed. Members of all different sects and denominations, race and nation are going to find that in order to come to Christ, they must leave their Church, not abandon but seek Christ and God in Creation and HIs Word rather than Church doctrine and dogma.

The Sabbath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath-So...what did Jesus reveal about the Church? The Church/Temple worked harder on Sabbath than on any other day performing empty rituals and labors in a perfunctory show of propriety. And worse, was in league with the State/Government, and served for the Whore/Money, committing adultery on so many levels it was impossible to use the Temple for any Work of God...That is why Jesus did no Work there. He did all His Works in secret, though news of them came abroad.

Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath-So...Jesus is explaining that it is not about the Church or men's will to work, but about the Spirit and mystery of Holiness.

Men created men for the "Sabbath." A day when men would work harder than any other day of the week to win people to the Church. Abominable...A day for men to show off how holy they find themselves to be, a day for people to join them in this detestable practice...when what did God say?

Mic 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Joseph Smith, a servant of Jesus Christ, while faithful to a point, seems totally blind to the Work he labored to translate. Everytime he had opportunity to do so, he betrays the Spirit of the Christ in his personal life with Pride and love of worldly things such as the praise of men. That is why I know Paul's testimony is superior, even though Paul's personal example and lifestyle was inferior.

Joseph does not take the Spirit to himself and fulfills Scripture he labored to "translate." In a miraculously ironic way... I believe he felt Jesus Christ as a person to be beneath him because he knew Jesus could sin and be tricked as many others have tried to do as well. He didn't see Christ as God in theFlesh but merely a man who brought the "Gospel," and whose authority could be usurped. And such can be done, for the entire world is willing and able to deny Christ. Nonetheless, Jesus loved Joseph.

Alma 30: 42 Behold, I know that thou believest, but thou art possessed with a lying spirit, and ye have put off the Spirit of God that it may have no place in you; but the devil has power over you, and he doth carry you about, working devices that he may destroy the children of God.

Moses 1:19 Satan cried with a loud voice, and ranted upon the earth, and commanded, saying: I am the Only Begotten, worship me.

Joseph Smith and Co. I believe at least some of them, were righteous because they hated God. He wanted the Throne, not the Love. He knew he could do what Jesus did. He knew he could be righteous. But could he be hated, miserable, lowly and destestable for God? I don't think so. What hath the glory of men to do with God? God knew and knows Joseph.

Proper attitude:

2Cr 12:5-6 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.

For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but [now] I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me [to be], or [that] he heareth of me.

Improper:

 

"I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. Neither Paul, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day-Saints never ran away from me yet."

 

Nonetheless, number One Reason people despised Joseph Smith and Mormons???

They fulfilled Scripture and made everyone else around them look weak and sinful.
Joseph and his followers seemed undefiled, holy, strong and able which their works testified to, it was Pride that knocked 'em down, even though they continue to build up places to honor themselves...not God. They were handed over to their enemies, even though their hands were clean, their hearts were defiled before God. The hearts of their enemies were more worthy and righteous, though the hands of their enemies were bloodied with sin.

Let's face it, loving God is not easy. He honors whomever He so chooses, and for His own reasons and to bring about His own Work. He often leaves us without hands and eyes in the world, not knowing which end is up, indebted to our enemies...because...lo and behold, that is when God can step in and save us from ourselves.

And I don't mean to tear down the Faith of the Mormon Church.

They do a lot of things very well, simply because they keep it simple. And the Book of Mormon is Scripture even if the Church itself doesn't understand It.

It's fascinatingly true that where Jews fail, Gentiles suceed and vice versa. And when the day comes that they realize this and bring both oddities together to Unify The Faith...Grace and Love shall abound as never before.

If they believe in Christ, they will be justified. If they believe in Joseph, they wont.

Jhn 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

The Faithful witness therefore...

1Cr 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.

It is believers who make the Church successful. It is the Body acting in Holiness, desiring the Greater Gifts, loving one another...Seeking to be Holy even because He is Holy. Which is why the LDS Church is so successful to a point. Joseph's personal walk and example exceeded any other witness. He did what Jesus asked because he understood the Secret. Then he betrays all his labor and with a single statement, is rejected. Why? Because it was his attitude all along. He never really took the Gospel to heart he just underestood It and why and how It worked. For him it was strictly business and the Church exemplifies this attitude.

And their young missionaries and laborers are some of the best in the business because they have Christ.

But too often what the Church does to the believer is use up his strength and holiness to no purpose in God. To build up the actual earthly edifice and exalt that which men created with their hands, rather then that Body which is Created without hands. Which is to bring Christ down to a level that Christ never should be brought to.

Mar 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down [from above]:)

Joseph and LDS Doctrine got everyone asking, "Who shall ascend to Heaven?" Not just a couple of apostles but the whole Church...

So, the wisdom in choosing Joseph was different than the choice of Paul and teaches something different about God. Joseph was no doubt unaware that he would someday end up looking foolish by being "perfect." How and why? It was an act and God knew it.

Question is: Will Joseph submit to the Authority of Christ or become the Prince of this world?

(For an update on this thread, go here: http://spaces.msn.com/members/scripturalstirrings/Blog/cns!1p_w5pgLxoiUjISnR0dH4d6A!140.entry )

Hosea prophesies of his allegiance to idols in the latter-days,

Hosea 4:17 Ephraim is joined to idols; leave him alone!

And Judah stumbles with him.

Hosea also witnesses that God does love him and looks after him. Just as God remains with Judah, He remains steadfast in His Love for Ephraim and for all the World.

Hsa 11:1-12 When Israel [was] a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

[As] they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.

I taught Ephraim also to go, taking them by their arms; but they knew not that I healed them.

I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love: and I was to them as they that take off the yoke on their jaws, and I laid meat unto them.

He shall not return into the land of Egypt, but the Assyrian shall be his king, because they refused to return.

And the sword shall abide on his cities, and shall consume his branches, and devour [them], because of their own counsels.

And my people are bent to backsliding from me: though they called them to the most High, none at all would exalt [him].

How shall I give thee up, Ephraim? [how] shall I deliver thee, Israel? how shall I make thee as Admah? [how] shall I set thee as Zeboim? mine heart is turned within me, my repentings are kindled together.

I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I [am] God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.

They shall walk after the LORD: he shall roar like a lion: when he shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west.

They shall tremble as a bird out of Egypt, and as a dove out of the land of Assyria: and I will place them in their houses, saith the LORD.

Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.

Yom Kippur

THE KOL NIDRE

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=340&letter=K

By : Joseph Jacobs Max Schloessinger Cyrus Adler Francis L. Cohen

Prayer recited in the synagogue at the beginning of the evening service on the Day of Atonement; the name is taken from the opening words. The "Kol Nidre" has had a very eventful history, both in itself and in its influence on the legal status of the Jews.

Introduced into the liturgy despite the opposition of rabbinic authorities, repeatedly attacked in the course of time by many halakists, and in the nineteenth century expunged from the prayer-book by many communities of western Europe, it has often been employed by Christians to support their assertion that the oath of a Jew can not be trusted.

Form of Prayer.

Before sunset on the eve of the Day of Atonement, when the congregation has gathered in the synagogue, the Ark is opened and two rabbis, or two leading men in the community, take from it two Torah-scrolls.

Then they take their places, one on each side of the ?azzan, and the three recite in concert a formula beginning with the words, which runs as follows:

"In the tribunal of heaven and the tribunal of earth, by the permission of God -- blessed be He -- and by the permission of this holy congregation, we hold it lawful to pray with the transgressors."

Thereupon the cantor chants the Aramaic prayer beginning with the words "Kol Nidre," with its marvelously plaintive and touching melody, and, gradually increasing in volume from pianissimo to fortissimo, repeats three times the following words:

"All vows , obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called '?onam,' '?onas,' or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent.

May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths."

The leader and the congregation then say together: (Num. xv. 26).

"And it shall be forgiven all the congregation of the children of Israel, and the stranger that sojourneth among them, seeing all the people were in ignorance"

This also is repeated three times. The ?azzan then closes with the benediction, :

"Blessed art thou, O Lord our God, King of the Universe, who hast preserved us and hast brought us to enjoy this season."

In many congregations Num. xiv. 19-20 is recited before this benediction. After it the Torah-scrolls are replaced, and the customary evening service begins.

 

 

May the reader be blessed in the new year and may all find themselves inscribed in the LORD's Book of Life!

 

The Lion and the Eagle

 2 Esdras 11

36 Then I heard a voice, which said unto me, Look before thee, and consider the thing that thou seest. 37 And I beheld, and lo as it were a roaring lion chased out of the wood: and I saw that he sent out a man’s voice unto the eagle, and said, 38 Hear thou, I will talk with thee, and the Highest shall say unto thee, 39 Art not thou it that remainest of the four beasts, whom I made to reign in my world, that the end of their times might come through them? 40 And the fourth came, and overcame all the beasts that were past, and had power over the world with great fearfulness, and over the whole compass of the earth with much wicked oppression; and so long time dwelt he upon the earth with deceit. 41 For the earth hast thou not judged with truth. 42 For thou hast afflicted the meek, thou hast hurt the peaceable, thou hast loved liars, and destroyed the dwellings of them that brought forth fruit, and hast cast down the walls of such as did thee no harm. 43 Therefore is thy wrongful dealing come up unto the Highest, and thy pride unto the Mighty. 44 The Highest also hath looked upon the proud times, and, behold, they are ended, and his abominations are fulfilled. 45 And therefore appear no more, thou eagle, nor thy horrible wings, nor thy wicked feathers, nor thy malicious heads, nor thy hurtful claws, nor all thy vain body: 46 That all the earth may be refreshed, and may return, being delivered from thy violence, and that she may hope for the judgment and mercy of him that made her.

The Apocrypha : King James Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA    

Animal Farm

"The pigs have taught themselves HTML."

Living in the limelight

The universal dream

For those who wish to seem...

Those who wish to be...

Must put aside the alienation

Get on with the fascination

The real relation

The underlying theme...

The Whore's power lies in Her ability to make everyone anti-social and then claim to have solutions for anti-social behavior.

I do not intend to dishearten any, just the opposite. Not many have managed to become "adults," (whatever that is) in this world of labels. A favored few manage to realize that they are God's Children, which is to really mature, but then when we do we have to deal with "adults" of the world which means people who are preceived to be adults must be corrected by people preceived to be childish in world view...Elderly people and adults in general have done no more than accepted and grown accustomed to sin and they like it that way and do not intend to change and do not want to grow up or repent. These we call adults because they try to run one another's lives to ensure their right to sin. They do not deserve anyone's respect unless they honor the Truth about God and teach their children and grandchildren firmly about sin and its consequences. Most "adults" deserve no more than the younger generation's pity and mercy, and often engender their contempt and outright hatred.

It's a frustrating situation for all parties involved. It's not important who is to blame but that the system and lack of respect that it engenders is not of God and so dealing with it and people who honor it can be completely foreign to those who belong to Him and wish to be governed by Him. Someday we'll fix it, and I believe a great number of us are ready to do so. That's what I'm here for and it's difficult when the concern is focused on how to imprison your fellow man with debt and/or psychosis rather than free, enable and assist according to a Just Law and Order. The former allows our enemies to take advantage of the situation and retards the Whole, including our friends and family's ability to Unite and help each other. And it seems to me as if more often thannot, our friends and family side with our Enemy and the whole House falls apart unless we turn over our deeds and wills to thieves. I'd rather be imprisoned and enslaved by my enemies than by my own, but if it must be so, than our houses will crumble and our Way of Life diminished until at last we are no more. I'm not willing to partake in a criminal's kingdom. I'll serve no unjust master or whore, nor will I become one myself. Madness can be attractively enjoyable, but madness consumed, controlled, and conspired for is not madness at all, it's puke.

It is important to remember when deliberating social issues, that the wicked are policed by the wicked. Thus, the righteous employ the wicked in protecting their values, homes, and way of life, and must make certain concessions to the wicked law enforcer for their assistance and allegiance. There need be no comraderie betwixt the two, but rather an understanding and agreement weighed upon the balances of Justice and Mercy.

Just as the Righteous are devoted to and responsible for instructing their own, so the wicked are responsible for policing their own and do so with an equal if less honorable zeal.

I'm no one's Judge, and neither is Jesus. Someone's manner and way of being may reveal something to me that they may not even be aware of themselves and I may exploit it to whatever end I may if I so choose. I would never choose to do so, but many do.

I've never met a psychologist or psychiatrist who didn't seem depressed to me...I don't believe in labels beyond "Christian" and "Heathen." Even if neither are confirmed as such yet, these are the only two labels I use. I believe in simplicity and as such, either you are a Christian or you are a liar, and sometimes one may be both. The only way to tell the difference is righteous judgment.

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

It is that simple. False Christians become ensnared in their own webs. And many are ignorant of being false of what it truly means to be a Christian and they must come to this realization or perish. It does often mean taking orders or doing things that you do not agree with or that do not make sense to you in the moment. That is the amount of Trust and Faith you can and must have in the LORD. For He is always with you and for you.

Anyone who trusts in Freudian logic is therefore suspect, but may be so in ignorance because they may believe Freud. Nothing sets me off like fraudulent intellectual superiority towards another, counting on overcoming an adversary simply because they are of a Christian fundamentalist mindset and then have the gall to claim to be Christian themselves. It lacks guts, which Christians have, and satan is want of...we are protected from these types and their "pet intellectual disenchantment" by our abiding belief in God, in the same way we are protected from the vicious hounds of hell, but they are not, so pray for them.

Sigmund Freud gave birth to a hateful lie that had more to do with him sucking on a cigar than any wisdom or knowledge he ever possessed.

Psychoanalysis, psychology, and psychiatry and any other branches of this lie depend heavily upon the misrepresentation of Christianity for its "theories," just as every other form of Quackery extant.

Find a Christian Doctor or therapist therefore. A physician.

Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

A person commanded to stand firm in Christ, who commits himself and gives his whole being over to obedience to God's Word, if ever led astray, could fall for any number of these supposed "theories."

Would anyone living in disobedience, apart from God and His Love become "manic" and /or "depressed," "schizophrenic," or "obsessive compulsive"?

You bet they would! Freud's gift to the world is therefore no more than the Jerry Springer Show!

And what is worse than these lies and their forms of "treatment," is that when one is taught that these affectations of the world, (and that is what they are, not "chemical imbalances" or "mind/personality disorders" though believing in them will certainly result in these states of being) these various states of being are "illnesses" that the subject has no control over and that they must seek help through "doctors" (quacks) and/or "experts" in these "fields of study," woe unto them! for they have fallen into the worst imaginable, most nefarious trap ever divised by the antichrist.

Get thee to church! Get thee to God, eat right, exercise, separate yourself from the world, and you will be made Whole.

A God/Christ complex is a supernatural and desirable complex to "suffer." Because one is becoming like Christ, part of His Body, the Spiritual Body of the Church of Christ- Pure, Powerful, Sinless, Undefiled, Miraculous, etc.

"Normalizing" illness and disease has led to nothing but ever more rampant illness and disease. Sinners do not need any more excuses than they already have! And as their numbers increase so do the numbers, and I like to call them "legions" of "quacks" and "cures."

I'm sorry if my vigilance and militant christian stance offends any, but it is way too late in the game to give ear to false sentimentality and superficial chatter. Both of these are harmful.

We are working to save souls, and that demands a brand of honesty that the world is not used to or comfortable with...but once you put on the armor of God yourself, you will feel more comfortable speaking in it and acting in it...You may find the world encroaches upon you more and more at every available opportunity and it may feel like to give in and give up and just go along with what everyone is doing would be easier.

People you've been comfortable around your whole life begin to make you uncomfortable and vice versa...hopefully, your change will embolden others to strive with you. A lot of the time, unfortunately, you're going to find yourself alone with God and alot of people are going to turn you away or turn away from you, but that does not mean you are on the wrong track.

It's okay to be alone. It's okay to turn away from the world and ignore it, in fact, it's demanded.

The Way is narrow...Not many are chosen though many are called...
Pseudo-Christians are the worst possible servants of the Beast that exist...and they make it very hard for real Christians to do the Work of the Lord...

Get right with God.

Living in the midst of wolves, snakes, and pigs etc. isn't easy, but I believe I've pulled it off without backing down nor joining the Zoo.

It's funny, we're born and we assume everyone around us is experiencing the same reality and that there are intelligent people here with you who would help you on your journey through "life" together. It is not often so, and sometimes a dangerous belief to hold. At best, we experience a parasitic love from others, who lie bold faced and smiling at you. They tell you what a great person you are while laughing hysterically inside at you.

Innocence, adoration and hapiness- I was a deep vast well of these three attributes...I'm afraid I'm drying up...

Luk 23:27-31 And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.

But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed [are] the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?

 

Eze 17:24 And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done [it].